Sunday, September 27, 2020

Six Strategies To Make Your Podcast Interesting


If you want to hold someone's attention you first need to know who they are and what they need. Then we hear that people's attention span keeps getting smaller. Is it? Today I look into attention spans, and what makes things interesting.

I asked my audience what thought made things interesting. Thanks to everyone who contributed including:

Craig From http://www.inglespodcast.com/

Thomas from www.novelmarketing.com

Harris from Wild Talk (XFL Podcast)

Orlando from www.hablandodetecnologia.com/

Carey from Podcastification

Andres from Colmillo Roquero

Brandon from Florida Focus Podcast

Bill from the Stroke Cast

Kim from the Pharmacist's Voice

Sean Whaley from Tourpreneur, Spybrary and Radio GDR

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Conclusion

It's not that attention spans are getting smaller (they are not) but more our ability to know what we want and identify when we are NOT going to get it has grown. Know your audience, and give them what you want. Be your honest, transparent, vulnerable self to hold their attention. Use tools like your voice, your pacing, to grab their attention. Never stop your passion from coming out. Let people hear your passion.

Keep in mind you are somewhat doomed. If you stay 100% consistent, your audience may get bored. If you branch out and try new things, you may upset those who want the show to never change. I know... so be ready to embrace that no matter what you do - some people will leave.

Include any of these six to be more interesting:

  • Tone of voice
  • Pacing
  • Passion
  • Stories
  • Autonomy
  • Vulnerability

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Saturday, September 26, 2020

Zoom Announces Podtrak P8


Today we are excited to talk about another new toy that has been announced (Dave has a demo on the way). Other topics include:

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TOPICS IN TODAY'S SHOW

02:41 Zoom Announces Zoom Podtrak P8
05:58 Making Your Brand Trustworthy
13:10 The Zoom P4 Is a Great Place to Start
21:46 Bluetooth vs Wired
23:38 Webcam Suggestions?
27:38 Our Awesome Supporters
32:21 International Podcast Day
36:11 The Very First Podcast You Listened To
39:48 Will Seasons Hurt Me?
42:12 Because of My Podcast
47:10 Riverside.fm?
55:12 Should I leave Podbean?
55:51 What Coming Up?

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58:11 Jim's Patreon Only Event
1:02:04 Getting Guests Back In Line
1:04:50 Reiverside.fm Flexibility
1:05:40 Table of Contents Show Notes
1:08:20 Hello From Nigeria
1:16:08 Podcast Media Hosting
1:21:11 indiedropin.com
1:22:00 Hero Health
1:25:02 Honeybook
1:26:45 Jim's Tour
1:28:50 What's Up With Dave's Leg?

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Sunday, September 20, 2020

How Podcasting Boosts Elizabeth Benton's  Seven Figure Business -741


Elizabeth Benton is known as a health and nutrition guru, but to me, she is more of a "mindset guru." She is someone who has dug herself out of being $130,000 in debt, and has lost (and kept off )150 lbs. My audience from the Logical Weight Loss podcast told me I HAD to read her book, Chasing Cupcakes (get it for free on Audible), and once I finished her book, I checked out her Primal Potential podcast and downloaded all of her episodes. I was thrilled when she agreed to come on the show and explain how podcasting has boosted her business.

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Topics With Elizabeth Benton

7:16 How Long Did You Run Your Business Without a Podcast?
8:31 Did you hesitate to start your podcast?
9:11 People have STONG Feelings about Eating Healthy
11:24 How has your podcast impacted your business?
12:53 Because of her podcast ______.
14:01 Have you interviewed your clients on your podcast?
14:32 How do you keep going?
16:29 Favorite Piece of Feedback
17:36 Elizabeth shares about expectations in relationships
20:43 Advice for a new podcaster
22:20 You attract people who are like you.

My Favorite Takeaways

  • I want to be challenged because in that I learn.
  • If you don't want to roll an ankle don't play basketball if you don't want people to disagree with you Don't ever say anything out in public.
  • The advantage over email is people can listen to episode four. They can't read your fourth email. 
  • If you're having fun, stay in the game. Stay consistent.
  • Don't just do podcasting because podcasting is hot. It's only hot if you're really good at it.

Podcast Rewind

I appeared on The Brave Files  podcast with Heather Vickery talking about some of my biggest fears and how I overcome them. The show features people living courageously.

I also appeared on the Business of Podcasting show with Charley Valher. We talked about taking steps to make sure your podcast connects with your audience. Without a connection, you won't be able to monetize your show.

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I Need Your Thoughts in Interesting

31:48 Right now, I'm obsessed with the word, Interesting. When you hear the word interesting, what comes to your mind? If someone who spoke another language and asked you to explain what Interesting mean, how would you describe it. Feel free to “riff” on your thoughts of interesting, and explain any examples of content you feel is interesting. I need your answer by September 25th, 2020. Go to www.schoolofpodcasting.com/queston

 

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Elizabeth Benton on the Logical Weight Loss Podcast

Elizabeth Benton's Book "Chasing Cupcakes" on Amazon and Audible

Elizabeth Benton's website Primal Potential and Podcast

Primal Potential Episode on Expectations

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Saturday, September 19, 2020

Amazon Music/Audible Launches Podcast Directory


Dave is back from phase I of his moving into a new location, and is glad to catch up with everyone as Amazon launches their podcast directory. Topics include:

00:00:35 Sponsor: podcastbranding.co
00:01:49 Dave's Moving Journey
00:03:20 Amazon Music Adds Podcasting
00:20:50 Jims Feedback on Seasons
00:22:31 One Person's Feedback
00:25:42 Amazon Terms Of Service
00:29:34 Our Awesome Supporters
00:30:50 Joe Rogan's Apology
00:33:17 Are Podcasters Journalists?
00:36:56 Accessibility Issues
00:40:49 Transcriptions
00:45:34 Overdub Feature
49:06 Podcasters Book Club
49:54 Learn Podpage
54:04 Dave's Audiobook?
 
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Sunday, September 13, 2020

How Charley Valher Changed His Podcast from a Money Taker to a Money Maker


Charley Valher started a podcast and was "swinging for the fences" and after hiring a team, and putting 50,000 into a marketing budget he realized after a year that the show just wasn't producing the results he needed. Today he shares the mistakes he made, and how he came back to podcasting with new strategies and insights that resulted in his podcast (the business of podcasting) being the number one way her is driving customers to his business at Valher Media

Topics Include:

02:41 Charlie's Services

05:14 Charlies Hired a Team for His First Podcast

07:59 What Was Missing?

10:44 How did you come up with the new formula?

12:19 Position Yourself as the Expert

14:45 Can You Niche Down Too Far?

15:54 Three Ingredients of a Niche

16:40 Charlie's Original Call to Action

18:07 Having the Right Topics

22:11 Was it Hard To Try Again?

25:13 How Long Until You Saw Results?

26:57 How do you pick topics?

29:32 Interviewing Potential Clients

33:22 Did You Make Any Technology Mistakes

34:59 Most Memorable Feedback

39:55 What's Working Now?

40:41 How Do You Grow Your Podcast?

43:04 Insights Into Charlie's Prices

Great Takeaways

Position yourself as an expert 

I want to talk to my audience so they feel like I've been watching them.

When creating a niche, consider the demographic, the service/industry, and if this is for Beginners/Intermediates/Experts

His audience is now quoting the podcast in his approval form. They say things like, "This podcast was made for me." 

The 5o,00 budget did not result in success. You can't buy an audience if your content doesn't connect.

Question of the Month DeadLine 9/25

Right now, I'm obsessed with the word, Interesting. When you hear the word interesting, what comes to your mind? If someone who spoke another language and asked you to explain what Interesting mean, how would you describe it. Feel free to “riff” on your thoughts of interesting, and explain any examples of content you feel is interesting. I need your answer by September 25th, 2020. Submit your answer at schoolofpodcasting.com/question

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Sunday, September 6, 2020

Super Serve Your Niche - Lessons from Tyler Perry


As I continue (as a middle-aged white dude) to attempt to learn more about Black History, Culture, and issues, a friend of mine suggested I watch the TV show Black AF on Netflix as there is always a hidden history lesson.   (a writer and producer)  plays a television writer and producer (named Kenya Berris). In one episode the main character (who is a movie and television creator) is worried about giving feedback to a fellow black creator, and also is worried about what others might think about his films and content.

In sone scene, Kenya meets Tyler Perry who might know from his movies feature Madea. This is a character played by Perry. She is a tough, elderly African-American woman. She 6'2" and 365 lbs.

Diary of a Mad Black Woman—2005
Madea's Family Reunion—2006
Meet the Browns (cameo)—2008
Madea Goes to Jail—2009
I Can Do Bad All by Myself—2009
Madea's Big Happy Family—2011
Madea's Witness Protection—2012
A Madea Christmas—2013
Boo! A Madea Halloween—2016
Boo 2! A Madea Halloween—2017
A Madea Family Funeral—2019

Transcript from Black AF Featuring Tyler Perry

In the episode, Kenya asks about the website Rotten Tomatoes.

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Kenya Barris: Go to Rotten Tomatoes.

Tyler Perry: But let me just tell you about the tomatoes. I don't fuck with 'em.

Kenya Barris: No tomatoes?

Tyler Perry: I don't give a damn about a rotten or a fresh none of that means shit to me.

Kenya Barris: That's amazing. What about critics?

Tyler Perry: I don't give a fuck

Kenya Barris: I guess that's amazing.

Tyler Perry: Can I just tell you why?

Listen, man, I know that I'm telling stories that my folks want to see. I'm talking from our point of view. We're speaking a language. We're speaking a shorthand that we get, and that white people don't necessarily get. Nina Simone said this and I never forgot that she said, "You will use up everything you got trying to give everybody what they want."

You got to focus man you know what I do? I super serve my niche. We speak like we're talking we know each other - we get it. There's a lot of times I see shit that wins Oscars and I be like, what is this shit? I walked out halfway through it. I don't get it.  I feel like they feel the same way about my work. They don't get it, which is all cool.

My mother born in Jim Crow South In Louisiana, right down the street from Mississippi where Emmett Till was murdered. She told me the value of being who I am of my blackness. She said, "Don't you ever let anybody tell you who you are, you know who you are, you know where you come from." I watched her stories, I watched her struggles and that's what I'm telling.

I'm telling the stories that I come from, and that's why they're winning. Because people are recognizing themselves in these stories, no matter how crass that people think they are, no matter what the critics are saying, Oh, I don't get this shit. I don't understand what is. I don't give a fuck because I'm talking to us. That's why millions of people are watching my shows every week. That's why people keep showing up and sending the movies to number one. I'm talking to us connecting with us. You know, I'm saying?

Let me tell you what you're doing, you're trying to get them to approve you. That's when I don't get why niggas run around trying to get white folks, "Please tell me I'm special. Oh, give me your Oscar. Oh, let me know I'm all of these things that you want me.."

Fuck that. Tell your story. Live in your own life in your own culture. Tell your own experience. Ain't nobody gonna tell you how to be you. You hear what I'm saying?

Kenya Barris: I do man. I really fucking do.

Tyler Perry: Good.

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Now keep in mind that this is Kenya Berris playing himself and the same for Tyler Perry, but the more I got into researching Tyler Perry the move I loved his message.

It's Not How You Start - It's How you Finish

Tyler grew up in Louisiana with his mother and an alcoholic father who would beat both he and his mother.

His Success Didn't Come Overnight

Tyler started with plays. His first play cost $12,000 to put on. He expected to get 1200 people, and instead he got 30.

It Starts With Knowing Your Audience

Tyler Perry knows white critics are not going to get his movies. He doesn't care because he got feedback from someone who saw the movie "Diary of a Mad Black Woman" and she said, "In two hours, you got my sister to do what we've been trying to do for twelve years - leave an abusive relationship." (source)

His Attitude on Feedback

In his book Higher is Waiting, he states, "What's more, you need some naysayers in your life. You need people to challenge your point of view. Your job is to look for the truth in their negativity. For instance, sometimes I'll get a bad review. And my first defensive reaction is to think it's completely off the mark. Once I give myself a moment and allow my initial reaction to be released, I'll read it again to see if there's anything I can learn from the review. If it's pure vitriol, well, I let it go. But if there's some truth, even a kernel, I'll use what's written to be better at what I do. I can take constructive criticism."

It Took Seven Years to Start to Catch On

Tyler mentions how each year he would work different jobs, saving his money so he could put his play I Know I've Been Changed on in a theater. Upon the seventh year, he started to get feedback from attendees saying how much they enjoyed the play. It would go on tour from 1998-2000.

He Went To Where His Audience Was

Perry continued to create new stage productions, touring with them on the so-called "Chitlin' Circuit" (now also known as the "urban theater circuit") and developing a large, devoted following among African-American audiences. In 2005, Forbes reported that he had sold "more than $100 million in tickets, $30 million in videos of his shows and an estimated $20 million in merchandise", and "the 300 live shows he produces each year are attended by an average of 35,000 people a week."

He is Brave and Shares His Faith

If you interview Tyler Perry he will say his success is due to one thing. The grace of God. He knows saying "Jesus" is not a popular thing to do in mainstream media. But it's not to his audience. In a survey in 2007 by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life, the African-American population was found to be more religious than the U.S. population as a whole, with 87% of its members being affiliated with a religion, and 79% of them saying that "religion is very important in their life", in contrast to 83% and 56% of the whole US. population, most of which is Christian, with 83% of black Americans identifying as Christian, including 45% who identify as baptist.

He Owns All of His Material

While many podcasters are looking to be on a big network, Tyler Perry went direct. He rented theaters for his plays. He wrote, acted, and directed his content. Why? His father was a carpenter and he would see his father build a house and get paid $8,000 while to owner/seller of the house got $80,000. Perry's films are co-produced and distributed by Lions Gate Entertainment; he retains full copyright ownership under the corporate name Tyler Perry Films, and places his name in front of all titles. Perry's movies have seen very limited release outside North America, but in May 2010, Lionsgate announced plans to begin releasing his films in the United Kingdom.

He Gives Back to His Community

His dream was to own his own studio. He bought land in Atlanta Georgia that was previously a confederate fort that made plans to keep 3.9 million negros enslaved, and he put built it there so other black children could see "that the land is now owned by one negro." (source)

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Saturday, September 5, 2020

Podcasts are like Digital Babies


Today I talk to Jim who has five kids and we compare the overwhelm of new parents to compare it to the feelings that "wanna be" podcaster who can't seem have. 

TOPICS INCLUDE

00:45 SPONSOR: PodcastBranding.co 

02:17 Podcasts Are Like Children

11:39 How to do a Solo Show

14:39 What is your strength?

25:53 Thanks to The Patrons

27:28 Boom Arms

29:57 Dynamic Ad Revenue

34:31 bass Drum Boom Arm

35:37 How Do You Know You're Successful?

39:37 Zoom Podtrack P4

41:41 Press the Record Button?

42:49 COVID IS REAL

43:36 VIVO Boom Arms

46:07 Podcast Movement

48:07 Podfest Videos

50:33 Zoom Fatigue

54:39 MixPre Units

55:46 Laptop VS PC

57:14 Speaking Gigs

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